In this interview Juan Pascoe details his involvement with the Papago Indians in Arizona during their fight to obtain the mineral rights to the land their reservation sits on. He also tells about the negotiation between Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA), Congress, and the Papagos about placing an observatory on Kitt Peak. Topics discussed include: American Friends Service Committee; University of Arizona; University of California, Los Angeles; Carpenter, Edwin; Denton, John; Eisenhower, Dwight David; Meinel, Aden; Udall, Stewart; astronomical observatory; cyclotron; telescopes.